Movement/prediction stutters

[mikota]

There are visual stutters while moving. To me it looks like prediction errors but I'm no expert.

The issue is shown in the video below:

quetoo.mp4

This is an edited video, slowed down 2.75x to 60fps from the original recording in 165 fps. In the first part of the video I simply move my mouse arround, demonstrating that this isn't some general framepacing/rendering issue. In the second part of the video I'm moving around, and you can clearly see the stuttering.

The original non-cut, full speed at 165fps video can be downloaded here. I repeat the same experiment multiple times in the same video.

The issue occurs in all video modes, vsync on/off/immediate. The issue becomes more noticable the faster I'm moving.

System info:
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[jdolan]

With cl_predict 0 does this go away?

[mikota]

With cl_predict 0 does this go away?

yes. note that I'm running on the build from the site which is pretty old

[jdolan]

@Paril Do you see this on Windows? I have never seen this on macOS or Linux. My hardware is pretty comparable to @mikota 's, but.. I can't reproduce this. At 40fps, 60fps, 125fps and uncapped. 🤷‍♂️

[jdolan]

@skies912 Do you see any micro-stutters on recent builds? I'm sure you would have raised it if you did..

[skies912]

I personally don't notice any stutters - aside from the expected small hiccup on first spawn-in. I tried running around a few maps. Couldn't notice anything. Might be an older hardware specific thing as their gpu has only 4gb vram. I can try seeing if I can remotely test Quetoo on my partner's PC (it's a dell AIO w/ an iGPU) at some point.

[skies912]

@mikota Is there anyway you can test this again if we can provide updated Windows build (via discord)? Would like to see if it changed, and redone from a cold PC start with minimal resources being used. Esp since you are using NVidia vs my setup which is AMD.